Talk:Kaede Honjou/@comment-213.205.198.83-20200406154307/@comment-45405164-20200406181030

Max AGI is not a build.

Skills have status requirements. Fishing requires DEX and the skills the twins get require STR. This is not limited to these skills and it is related to Maple's limited skillset. Equipment also has status requirements but it isn't pointed out very often. When Maple goes to Iz for equipment, Iz has a hard time recommending a material because Maple has 0 STR.

What is AGI? Agility is related to the players attack speed, movement speed, and so on. AGI is not related to damage.

This translates into an AGI build having little to no damage, the inability to acquire good equipment that would add damage, and no ability to gain skills that deal real damage. Even with armor piercing, it wouldn't work. Armor piercing attacks aren't things we see in the anime as they all have a big windup (or cast time effectively). An AGI build would be running like crazy, dodging hits, and attacking really fast and a cast time would require the character to become a sitting duck for 2-3 seconds.

As we see with Mai and Yui, they have no HP. Even Maple has no HP unless she gives up her rings and the nice armor Iz made for her. Keep in mind that Iz is also one of the best crafters in the game and the angel set was reinforced heavily which burned through countless materials that normal players would not have the ability to compensate for. This would translate to Hydra's poison field and the lava field that comes from Great Eruption (7th event) to be instant death for an AGI user.

Without HP, you cannot acquire Poison Immunity. In specific, Maple was only able to acquire Poison Immunity because of her outrageous VIT. VIT actually reduces the damage poison deals. This is why she only took 1 damage from the giant bee in the forst and why the Hydra didn't one-shot her low 40 HP.

Sally is not a max AGI build but instead just a character with no HP/DEX. Without wasting points in these two statuses, her other stats improve noticably. Furthermore, Sally is not just playing NWO. The web novel says she is logging into other VR games and training her evasion there. She has died countless times while training in the other games. As far as I've read, she also doesn't have Poison Immunity.

"But sally beat the doppelganger of Maple.." Wrong. The area was an enclosed room. The AI was simple and kept spamming Hydra. We weren't told how she beat it but her Taijutsu level went up so we can be sure its like an armor-penetration or armor-ignoring martial-art skill. Her wind magic increased too but we've seen plenty of wind spells and they haven't been noticably powerful. "You said Taijutsu.." Yes but it only works against people who don't really fight back because the AI can't replicate a Maple-playstyle. Furthermore, Maple has acquired far too many overpowered skills since then. Pandemonium alone is enough to floor even a Max AGI build who's trying to run away. Fear the Oni! The oni single-handedly lay waste to a boss that's moving faster than the human eye so forget a mere player.